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He held that the jinn account for much of the "magic" that is perceived by humans, cooperating with magicians to lift items in the air, delivering hidden truths to fortune tellers, and mimicking the voices of deceased humans during seances.

Other critics, such as Jahiz and Mas'udi , related sightings of jinn to psychological causes. According to Mas'udi, the jinn as described by traditional scholars, are not a priori false, but improbable.

If he is afraid, he may see things that are not real. These alleged appearances are told to other generations in bedtime stories and poems, and with children of the next generation growing up with such stories, when they are afraid or lonely, they remember these stories, encouraging their imaginations and causing another alleged sighting of jinn.

However, Jahiz is less critical about jinn and demons than Mas'udi, stating human fantasy at least encourage people to imagine such creatures.

They differ from the angels, which due to their closeness to heaven reflect the spheres of the divine, mainly in their distance to the earth and the heavens, stating: "Only this much is different: The spirits of the jinn are lower spirits, while the spirits of angels are heavenly spirits".

Because jinn are closer to the material realm, it would be easier for human to contact a jinn, than an angel. Ahmadi interpret jinn not as supernatural beings, but as powerful men whose influence is felt even though they keep their distance from the common people.

According to Mirza Tahir Ahmad , references to jinn could also mean microorganisms such as bacteria and viruses.

Fethullah Gülen , leader of Hizmet movement , had put forward the idea, that jinn may be the cause of schizophrenia and cancer and that the Quranic references to jinn on "smokeless fire" could for that matter mean "energy".

Contemporary Salafi tenets of Islam reject modern interpretations of jinn and adhere to literalism , arguing the threat of jinn and their ability to possess humans can be proven by Quran and Sunnah.

Fatwas issued by Salafi scholars often repeatedly refer to a selection of Quran verses and hadith quotes, without reference to certain traditions and individual experience.

Some argue that many traditions and beliefs among Muslims are excluded from Salafi theological discourse and downplays embedded Muslim beliefs as local lore, such as symptoms of jinn possession.

The opinions of the prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer Muhammad Al-Munajjid , an important scholar in Salafism and founder of IslamQA , are repeated over several online sources, and is also cited by IslamOnline and Islamicity.

Similar Islamawareness. Further Muhammad Al-Munajjid, asserts that reciting various Quranic verses and adhkaar devotional acts involving the repetition of short sentences glorifying God "prescribed in Sharia Islamic law " can protect against jinn, [60] associating Islamic healing rituals common across Islamic culture with shirk polytheism.

Affirmation on the existence of jinn as sapient creatures living along with humans is still widespread in the Middle Eastern world and mental illnesses are still often attributed to jinn possession.

The low rate in Central Asia might be influenced by Soviet religious oppression. Sleep paralysis is conceptualized as a "Jinn attack" by many sleep paralysis sufferers in Egypt as discovered by Cambridge neuroscientist Baland Jalal.

Both Islamic and non-Islamic scholarship generally distinguishes between angels , jinn and demons as three different types of spiritual entities in Islamic traditions.

Especially in folklore , jinn share many characteristics usually associated with demons, as both are held responsible for mental illness, diseases and possession.

However, such traits do not appear within the Quran or canonical hadiths. The Quran emphasizes comparison between humans and jinn as taqalan accountable ones, that means they have free-will and will be judged according to their deeds.

Field researches in , among Sunni Muslims in Syria , recorded many oral-tales about jinn. It seems the demons are primarily associated with their role within Islamic scriptures, as abstract forces tempting Muslims into everything disapproved by society, while jinn can be encountered by humans in lonely places.

Jinn are not supernatural in the sense of being purely spiritual and transcendent to nature; while they are believed to be invisible or often invisible they also eat, drink, sleep, breed with the opposite sex, with offspring that resemble their parents.

Intercourse is not limited to the jinn alone, but also possible between human and jinn. However, the practice is despised makruh in Islamic law.

It is disputed whether or not such intercourse can result in offspring. They are "natural" in the classical philosopical sense by consisting of an element, undergoing change, and being bound in time and space.

In scientific treatises the jinn are included and depicted as animals hayawan with a subtle body.

But it is this very nature that enables them to change their shape, move quickly, fly, and entering human bodies, cause epilepsy and illness, hence the temptation for humans to make them allies by means of magical practices.

Unlike the jinn in Islamic belief and folklore, jinn in Middle Eastern folktales, depicted as magical creatures, are unlike the former, generally considered to be fictional.

The appearance of jinn can be divided into three major categories: []. Jinn are assumed to be able to appear in shapes of various animals such as scorpions, cats, owls and onagers wild ass.

Dogs are another animal often associated with jinn, especially black dogs. However, piebald dogs are rather identified with hinn. Associations between dogs and jinn prevailed in Arabic literature, but lost its meaning in Persian scriptures.

The wolf is thought of as the natural predator of the jinn, who, in contrast to the jinn by his noble character, blocks their ability to vanish.

Serpents are the animals most associated with jinn. The connection between jinn and serpents are strong enough, that those who believe in jinn fear killing a serpent since a jinn might avenge the murder.

Also some sources speak of killed jinn leaving a carcass similar to either a serpent or a scorpion behind. Both scorpions and serpents have been venerated in the ancient Near East.

Besides serpents, other chthonic animals such as scorpions and lizards are regarded as usual forms of jinn.

Further, gazelles, foxes, dogs and ostriches are associated with jinn. But these are not necessarily thought to be the embodiment of jinn, but rather their mounts i.

The jinn are also related to the wind. They may appear in mists or sandstorms. Accordingly, Tabasi showed him the jinn, seeing them like they were "a shadow on the wall".

A common characteristic of the jinn is their lack of individuality, but they may gain individuality by materializing in human forms, [] such as Sakhr and several jinn known from magical writings.

But also in their anthropomorphic shape, they stay partly animal and are not fully human. Therefore, individual jinn are commonly depicted as monstrous and anthropomorphized creatures with body parts from different animals or human with animal traits.

However, since they stay partly animal, their bodies are depicted as fashioned out of two or more different species.

Therefore, a sorcerer may summon a jinn and force him to perform orders. Summoned jinn may be sent to the chosen victim to cause demonic possession.

Such summonings were done by invocation, [] by aid of talismans or by satisfying the jinn, thus to make a contract.

Soothsayers reveal information from the past and present; the jinn can be a source of this information because their lifespans exceed those of humans.

Since jinn are afraid of iron, they are unable to remove it with their own power. Seven kings of the Jinn are traditionally associated with days of the week.

Although many passages are damaged, they remain in Ottoman copies. These jinn-kings sometimes afarit instead are invoked to legitimate spells performed by amulets.

During the Rwandan genocide , both Hutus and Tutsis avoided searching local Rwandan Muslim neighborhoods because they widely believed the myth that local Muslims and mosques were protected by the power of Islamic magic and the efficacious jinn.

Beliefs in entities similar to the jinn are found throughout pre-Islamic Middle Eastern cultures. Lamashtu , also known as Labartu, was a divine demoness said to devour human infants.

The description of jinn is almost identical with that of the shedim from Jewish mythology. As with the jinn, some of whom follow the law brought by Muhammad, some of the shedim are believed to be followers of the law of Moses and consequently good.

Some Jewish sources agree with the Islamic notion that jinn inhabited the world before humans.

As in Islam, the idea of spiritual entities converting to one's own religion can be found in Buddhism.

According to lore, Buddha preached to Devas and Asura , spiritual entities who, like humans, are subject to the cycle of life, and who resemble the Islamic notion of jinn, who are also ontologically placed among humans in regard to eschatological destiny.

Some scholars evaluated whether the jinn might be compared to fallen angels in Christian traditions. Comparable to Augustine's descriptions of fallen angels as ethereal, jinn seem to be considered as the same substance.

Although the fallen angels is not absent in the Quran, [] the jinn nevertheless differ in their major characteristics from that of fallen angels: While fallen angels fell from heaven, the jinn did not, but try to climb up to it in order to receive the news of the angels.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Several terms redirect here. For other uses, see Jinni disambiguation , Jinn disambiguation , Djinn disambiguation and Genie disambiguation.

Supernatural spirits integrated in Islamic beliefs. See also: Islamic mythology. Main article: Genies in popular culture.

Dols points out that jinn-belief is not a strictly Islamic concept. It rather includes countless elements of idol-worship, as Muhammad's enemies practised in Mecca during jahilliya.

According to F. Meier early Islam integrated many pagan deities into its system by degrading them to spirits. In Islam, the existence of spirits that are neither angels nor necessarily devils is acknowledged.

Thereby Islam is able to incorporate non-biblical[,] non-Quranic ideas about mythic images, that means: a. Dols macht darauf aufmerksam, dass der Ginn-Glaube kein strikt islamisches Konzept ist.

Er beinhaltet vielmehr zahllose Elemente einer Götzenverehrung, wie sie Muhammads Gegner zur Zeit der gahiliyya in Mekka praktizierten.

Meier integrierte der junge Islam bei seiner raschen Expansion viele heidnische Gottheiten in sein System, indem er sie zu Dämonen degradierte.

Im Islam wird die Existenz von Geistern, die weder Engel noch unbedingt Teufel sein müssen, anerkannt. Damit besitzt der Islam die Möglichkeit, nicht-biblische[,] nicht koranische Vorstellungen von mythischen Vorstellungen sich einzuverleiben, d.

Götter zu Geistern zu erniedrigen und so ins islamische Geisterreich aufzunehmen. Depictions, whose actors are referred to as jinn are generally located apart from Judeo-Christian traditions.

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Bianquis, C. Bosworth, E. JSTOR, www. Accessed 10 May Islam Question and Answer. And by changing your thoughts.

The archons live in your thoughts. They are what you would call psychic vampires who feed on the energy of your thoughts and emotions. Yet humans will always have the power that comes with choice for humans are creators, but if humans allow the archons to influence them in your thinking, you humans will choose wrongly.

The deceivers take delight in violence and warfare, greed and deception, competition and denial, corruption and mendacity.

They encourage humans to take refuge in what you have called the negative polarity. I like this term. HW: Did we create the gods?

HW: Who or what is the Originator? J: No one knows. That is the Great Mystery. HW: Where is the Originator?

J: Everywhere. HW: So it is the creator? The Originator emanates. It does not purposefully create. Humans do that. HW: Can we interact with the Originator?

Does it listen to our prayers? It simply exists. It emanates for that is its nature. HW: So the Originator is not a God? It is the Originator.

I asked a few last questions. HW: Is there a personal god who listens to our prayers, works in mysterious ways, and so forth and so on…?

That personal god is your own soul… the immortal part of your self who does not die. You humans have created it on your long journey across eternity.

Unlike the archons, your individual soul aspect is a true spirit and resides always in the spirit world. It is part of the dreaming and as such, it dreams… always.

HW: And whose dream does it dream? J: Its own. HW: So when we pray to god almighty, we are actually praying to ourself? You are praying to your soul-self, your higher self, your god self.

This is how the real gods come into being… You ensouled humans are all in the process of becoming god-selves.

HW: Do the Jinn have god-selves? J: We are god-selves. We are spirits. And we have free will. It was at this point that this extraordinary conversation came to a close.

If you click on the book it will take you to Amazon where you can buy the book. Happy reading! I did buy John Lash's book but have not received it yet.

I am intrigued and want to know more about the archons. I have always known I had a sabotager within but never known what it was and what to do about it.

I think this is the answer. I was blown away by your post. Which you did but Nainoa, with help, rescued you The Originator as described by the Jinn reminded me of this energy.

I read your books twice but I need to read them again as they are saturated with so much information and wisdom that reading them many times would not suffice.

Thank you for your prolific memory and writing abilities. I hope some day to take the Spiritwalker classs with you and learn how to Journey. To date I have had no success and I feel deeply this is an important component of my spiritual growth.

Hello Hank! I was very interested in your blog about the Jinn you met in Medinet Habu temple. The small temple you mention is a particular favourite of mine.

After I first visited it and felt a strong connection, I did some research and discovered that it is the mortuary temple of Amenirdais, the Divine Adoratrice or God's Wife of Amun, a princess who was a kind of high priestess during the Late Kingdom.

Whenever I visit the small temple I take time to connect with Amenirdais. Sometimes she 'asks' me to clear the energy around the corridor.

My husband is Egyptian and I have visited Egypt 21 times and lived there for a year I have spent the last 10 years working with, and developing an Egyptian healing method that I call Alkhemi Sekhem.

I have read your articles about Egypt with great interest, and look forward to more in the future. Keep up the good work! This is what I have assumed; my shamanic work has always pointed 'away' from Christian gateposts; and the work Tom Kenyon has done with the Hathors seems to lend weight to this.

Both are connected and are "us. Shame traditional Christianity hasn't grasped the true meanings of its tenants.

I can only further hypothesize, that perhaps, people throughout the world have put so much mental energy into the construct of a dualistic God, one that is in some sort of battle with the devil, evil etc A God they need to fear, one that looks for vengeance, petty We truly are creators.

Perhaps that God that does not exist, but if enough people put enough energy for millenia into it, a deceiver will emerge masquerading as that God, and pull us into a downward spiral.

Thank you so much for posting this, it is truly fascinating - wow. I have a question: do you understand from this conversation that the attachments and habitual thought patterns that Buddhist teachings encourage us to disassociate ourselves from are one and the same as the Deceivers - and therefore that they are entities that have a will of their own?

Is this your understanding of it, or is it a lot more complicated than that? I loved this post, thank you so much for sharing.

What a magnificent view. Fearless -it must feel amazing! I had my husband who is a physician read this and next thing I know he in online ordering Spirit Medicine.

Just enjoyed the above Conversations with a Jinn and we just ordered your recommended J. Lamb's book Not in his Image.

I'd like to offer you my proof reading skills I was born with this gift , simply for my own pleasure and a way to give back to you for all you do.

I would be honored and pleased if you accepted this small gift that I lay before you. I found at least mistakes in the above writing FYI in case you didn't notice am assuming that you didn't or you would've corrected them.

Some folks don't notice, or don't care, but for me it always stops the flow of my reading like a short circuit. Just a quick reply, I'd define manifestation as the bringing into Form something that exists in spirit.

Creation, is bringing into existence something which wasn't.. My 2 cents ; Erik. As I sat in Ecclesiastical History lectures at University I was constantly confused and amazed that we students were prepared to avoid the violent and corrupt history of the church.

Rarely was there any emphasis or reference to the essence of Yeshua's teachings of love and peace. This conflict I found difficult to reconcile.

Studying Job helped with the presence of Satan as a 'deceiver' and later encounters with others apparently possessed by negative energies assisted me in understanding that all was not as it should be.

This encounter by Hank certainly explains that which confused me 30 years ago and is not heretical, as I see it, that Hank suggests it could be.

Rather it explains the past 2, years and beyond of dogmatic religion better than any 4 year theological course. Glad to see your Egypt trip was such a success.

Puts a different "spin" on the concept of enlightenment. Makes me think that much of what we call enlightenment can only come after the process of emptying out A wonderful blogum, thanks for sharing this Hank.

I'm curious what indigenous shamanic practitioners of the Americas would call spirits of a similar nature to the Jinn, here in the Americas.

Would they be Bear, Mountain Lion, and Deer, or would they be something more like the dorajuadiok? What a beautiful conversation They are also creations of the human mind, who want to have power over us and pretend to be creators.

They feed from our fears and disappear once we learn to not pay attention to their tricks and illusions.

Excellent article. The description of Sophia by the Jinn, and your impressions of Isis are very similar. Do you think Isis and Sophia are possibly one and the same?

Also, why would the Jinn offer to be your servant simply to gain more honey? It seems the Jinn was more excited about hurting your enemies than do healing work concerning behavior for an emanation of Sophia.

Thanks again for your sharing a fascinating encounter. A few things 'clicked' into place after I read your article. Thanks, Doc!

I've been 'studying' a shamanic method now for over 30 years and alot of what was passed between you and the Jinni corroborates with some of my own findings!

This was tremendously uplifting to me asd I do not have much contact with people I'm an invalid and to hear these things caused me to order the text by John Lash.

Mysteriously, my oxygen breathing tubes were filled with the scent of Olibanum and Mastic that night! The Lash book came after only one day after ordering no, I hadn't ordered expedited shipping!

I will journey on this soon. Thank you again! This means more to me than you'll ever know! I would be willing to share further with you if you are interested Be Well!

That is awesome! I believe that. It ties in nicely with lots of other things i have read, such as Jose Arguelles' 'Arcturus Probe' concerning Gods and Creators and such.

Lots of good info here Bravo. What an amazing experience-I just listened to you on coast-to-coast, that's what led me here.

This confirms what I've always sensed about religion.. I'll be attending your workshops as soon as I'm able. Hi Hank!! Hank, this is part of my confusion in life right now.

Can humans mimic like the deceivers? Deceivers may mimic something which looks more powerful than us, but can we ultimately mimic higher and overthrow their power?

Do deceivers try to hinder retard our knowledge so that we cannot advance to our full soul level and therefore rule us without us knowing or understanding.

Humans create, What level can we create to? I had an encounter several years ago now, with three entities that called themselves "My Jinn".

They came to me about midnight one warm midsummer night. Communication was mental and verbal. I was verbal at first, then both.

They were mental, but I heard them as if they were verbal. Still a bit confused there! They first appeared as a black cloud or hole in the upper corner of my bedroom.

I was not asleep! I was not dreaming! They said not to be afraid, and that they had come for me. I asked who they were because I heard all three voices at once at first.

That is when they told me they were my Jinn. I asked what they looked like, and first saw the head of an old man with long gray white hair, then a beautiful woman, then the head of a lion, then an eagle, then something else that still escapes me.

They said they could appear any way I wanted. I said "Appear as you wish or in your natural form".

They stayed invisible with short periods of visible form like clear bodies with light within the head and chest and a stream of light into the arms and legs.

This was after they took me from my body first up through the roof and higher and higher. I saw the bed with me on it shrink away then the roof of my home, then the surrounding area.

After I was so high I passed through the clouds and only night space and stars were above me. We came to a place where there was still a starry sky above, but only blackness below.

I seemed to be aware of some firmament like path under us, yet I did not see it. In this place, we seemed to traveling at an incredible speed forward, yet all was still, no breathing, but all the things we interacted with were doing the same.

Like we fly over towns and nieborhoods. As we passed them we could hear the individual conversations pass by below in the darkness somewhere under the blackness.

As we went faster and faster the voices from below became more of a blend of tones, and finally a single tone or harmony of tones like orchestral chords.

There was information being passed back and forth between the Jinn and me. What all, I do not recall. I do recall what seems to be the most important is that we came upon three invisible barrierers.

The Jinn passed through these with ease. I could not. The first one I could hardly push into it until as it would push me back out.

The harder I pushed the more it drained me of energy. When I looked down at my body I also looked like a transparent long drop of water with dimmer lights.

I believe that my being still connected to the body I was not as strong here as I could be. That is just my theory, my feelings. As might be guessed the Jinn had to pull me through the barrier.

The second I could get almost half way through, but still could not pass on my own. The final one was the easier until a point almost half way though.

Then it was very strong. They did not help me. I was pushed back. As before they first coaxed me though. This time they would not help me.

On my third attempt I passed the center at last with every bit of energy I could summon up. Once passed the center I was literally thrown the rest of the way.

This barrier pushed both ways. I was never told just what these barriers were, or what they were containing. My thoughts are dimensional maybe.

I cannot say for sure. By now I had a sort of connection with my Jinn that made them feel to me to be somehow a part of me as well as many other things.

I also feel that there are many many other entities out there of various kinds and intelligence and temperaments.

I felt these around on that journey, but had no actual contact with them. I was made aware that I had somehow passed a test and that it was as much for my benefit as for theirs.

Knowing about them still makes me feel good, warm inside, in more ways than one! Then, as if supermen had suddenly swooped me up and carried me off, I was taken back to my body in an instant.

As I birthed back into myself I found it hard to move or swallow. While I was gone I was so incredibly fluid and fast.

Now I was operating from within this machine once more. It took a while for my sole or spirit, or whatever you may want to call it from your point of view back in charge, I had to work at reconnecting with the control wires again.

When finally I could try to sit up and make my way to get water into the dried mouth of me, I looked at the clock and six hours had passed. I was stiff and sore, and sick to my stomach.

My hands and feet were numb and did not cooperate very well. When I was able I called in sick to work. I drank a lot of water and took some aspirin, and laid on the couch.

I did not wake for almost twelve hours. Since that experience I have died on the operating table and after four minutes was brought back.

I later told the doctors all about their conversations as I was watching from the ceiling above. It had take so much to knock me out that they had overdosed me.

When I was wheeled into the operating room I did not like the cold. I sat up on the gurney and pulled out the tubes and fell on the floor.

They were so excited to get me back on the gurney they did not look at my chart and gave me gas to put me out.

With all the other knock out drugs I had been given I could not have gas. That is when I knew what was going to happen, when I saw the mask.

One other time I also dropped from an odd reaction to a prescription just a year ago during a winter storm and 10 degree below blizzard.

As I lay on the floor foaming at the mouth for twenty minutes till the ambulance finally came I again was out and about.

I have seen sprits, and know when they are around. At the same time several others were scarring a friend of mine on the opposite side of a small lake.

They were floating over the water, totally black hooded creatures who were pointing their long fingers at him as they passed repeatedly.

He is not right to this day from this experience. I have become aware of many things now that others do not or choose not to see or hear, or believe in.

Once you see them, and they see you see them, you no longer can ignore their reality. You just do not let them interfere with your life.

There are the omens too. Things bring you awareness of other things that foretell or lead you to pay attention to things that otherwise you may not notice.

There are times I just know that something bad has happened. I usually can determine the direction, or if it is close by. I will be given an omen that will make me totally change my plans, or pass on an offer, or keep my family members from leaving the hose for a certain period of time, maybe postpone a trip ect Well that is my story, or at least a small part of it.

I anyone else has had such an experience I would very much like to hear about it. There must be a lot of us out there with similar stories.

One more thing, I seem to be able to generate a strong electrical warm energy in my hands, and I have had had super luck with implanting images in my 10 year old daughters mind without any hints or leading conversation.

We do it as a game now. I will pick a thing, like a blue bicycle, and concentrate on putting the image in her head. She will get it within minutes.

I can tell when I am generating this energy. When I am not this does not work well at all. When I am I know it will work and I feel powerful. My daughter says she can feel my hand on her head or back from a yard away because its warn and it tickles.

Weird huh. Sorry I ran on so long! One last thing, I have been definitely left with no fear of death, only the fear of what I may have to go though to get there, and the fear of how my passing my affect my family, and my youngest daughter.

I know also that to take your own life in any way to get to that other place of yours whatever that may be, would have very bad consequences both for you and others close to you.

To take the physical life of yourself or someone else who is not presenting you any threat of life or limb, or the life of an innocent will cause you to go somewhere separated from where you would like to be most.

You may very well be able to see that place you would like to be in the distance. However, you my friend, will never get there.

In addition, no one will come to your rescue! Those who set up the dream, and those who set it in motion, and those who operate in unknown and untold ways within it are watching.

Do not be on the wrong side of your personal invisible wall. Do not put the wrong wheels in motion! Now as for God, or any other entity, physical or not that plays any role in this world, they will never tell you to kill or destroy for any reason but self defense, defense of family, defense of others.

This is done only when your destruction is at hand. Anyone or anything that tells you to kill and destroy is false!

The only thing you will destroy for sure is you! Dear Dr Wessellman, Thank you for sharing your experience with us.. I had such a quantum leap when I was reading your article..

There was this huge A-HA moment!! We are the God's we have been waiting for.. Now I understand what " I am that I am " really means..

I am that I am means I am the total sum of each and every living creation I willed to be until this point in any dimension, timeline, in any form, in any planet, in any galaxy and whatever creation I will to be after this point..

I hope this will be an eye-opener for people who are left in the dark. Thank you again for sharing this information with us.. Aloha Hank, Thank for posting this.

This has expanded my mind, awareness, and conscientiousness. It is so fascinating to ponder that the creator has become self aware of its creativeness.

This is bootstrapping our awareness into knowing ourselves. I always knew that we are the ones responsible for the polarity in the world.

Am I to understand that the Sophia is also the same as some groups in history worshiped? I went to the TMZ website this morning to read the blog entry about this week's episode May 18, In the comment section after the blog entry, someone mentioned that interested folks should look up "Egyptian Jinns.

I found it fascinating reading. You gave me a new take on the TV show, as well as a different take on the role that religion plays in our world.

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